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Magnus Eriksson

Internet and beyond. Pre-modern, post-human, para-academic.

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monki I thought about how most of the reasearch we looked at was about helping people with disabilities j yes monki It’s like the first thing they come to think about when they have realistic representations of reality is to bring everyone up to this normative level of human cognition monki whereas your mars research seem to be more about expanding human abilities monki I mean it’s fine and helpful to get people to be able to ride buses even if they had a stroke monki but shouldn’t we develop flying cars instead? :) j wow, that’s a really rich theme to develop a persuasive argument around. j the disability thing is sort of a failure of imagination, i would suggest at the moment. monki i think so too monki A lot of research for a small “market” j precis. monki If you really wanted to help a lot of people you can do something to help developing countries monki and it doesn’t seem like its the medical industries pushing it either monki just like you say, a failure of imagination j hmmm yeah, well maybe we can begin to visual these issues as well and why people get stuck in certain places correlating the creative possibilites with the somewhat self-limited strategic habits researchers seem mired in at the moment within some disciplines. monki the genetics people seem to be 50-50 as to cure diseases and enhance human capabilities :) monki Maybe it’s because the researches take their own bodies as referent point in the end monki well, i dont know much about genetics but it seems like some genetics research are into curing inheritable diseases and some are into morphing humans with fishes or something hehe monki I have always been sceptical about the idea of the cyborg j The term was coined in 1960 when Manfred Clynes and Nathan Kline used it in an article about the advantages of self-regulating human-machine systems in outer space. monki since it views technology as an extention of human functions, which is a limiting idea i think monki ah monki didn’t know that monki They probably had a different definition of it then monki different than the popular culture figure of the cyborg j yes, “The cyborg is often seen today merely as an organism that has enhanced abilities due to technology,[3] but this perhaps oversimplifies the category of feedback.” j of course: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyborg monki I think technology have different origins and different logics than the human body, so there is no idea using that as reference. On the other hand I think it’s more about human becoming like technology monki this perhaps oversimplifies the category of feedback.” monki so true! monki there is also the related (and very japanese) idea of the exoskeleton monki I began to think now of how the figure of the cyborg and of the exoskeleton relate to the concept of the body in different ways monki where the cyborg is ultimately ONE organism monki the exoskeleton remains external and foreign to the body monki only that the feedback loop is so complete that there movements become one monki a common theme in cyborg mythology is also the technology taking over the humanity left in the human monki so technology directs its destructive force inwards monki whereas the destructive force of the exoskeleton is when it’s running amok monki the force is directed outwards monki could it be a western/eastern thing? :) j yes Day changed to 08 Dec 2007 monki the fear of the exoskeleton running amok is maybe the same fear japanese people have of making a public fool of themselves monki the fear of not staying in ones place monki which is the fear of a collectivist society monki the western individual society fears losing that individuality by integrating too much with technology